Best Phone for the Real Estate Ninja - Blackberry, Droid, or iPhone

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Best Phone for the Real Estate Ninja - Blackberry, Droid, or iPhone

I just purchased a Blackberry Torch and it sucks. I refused to get an iPhone because i'm not an apple fanboy and i spent days researching Android but ultimately decided to stick with Blackberry - bad move dude!

What's your experience with the Torch if you got one and what do you think is the best smartphone for the real estate agent, professional, developer, ninja?

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ROY BHANDARI

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iPhone is so superior it's not even funny. I am not an Apple fanboy, I don't own any other Apple products, but I can recognize that their phone is miles ahead of the competition.

TRONTSIES ONTARIO

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I got an Android about 4 months ago and so far it's been pretty good. I've played around with iPhones and to be honest they seem very simliar.
There has inevitably been a couple of issues with the phone but can anybody say that they have owned a phone that has never given them any problems?
When I was originally deciding on getting a new phone I had my heart set on an iPhone but they sold out before I got one and I can say that I'm very happy that happened cos my Android is sweet!
The one thing that I would say the iPhone has over the Android is the amount of apps available - skype for instance only recently launched for the latest version of firmware for the Android and from what I've seen it's been quite problematic, but that is the only thing that I can see that the Android is second best in - the apps.
As regards to usability, syncing, call quality and set up, Android is excellent. And the touchscreen on my phone model is awesome.
Blackberry can suck it! I see it's appeal and know that Blackberry users are extremely loyal but they really do NOT compare to Android or iPhone anymore.
Does anybody have the new Microsoft phone? I don't like their marketing campaign - it's stupid.

ROY BHANDARI

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^Which Android phone do you have? I hear Samsung are doing some amazing things with their Galaxy phone...

TONY AZZOPARDI

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I'm a proud APPLE Fanboy and have been since 84'. That said, my iMac, iPad and iPhone all work very well with regards to my Real Estate business and I highly recommend Apple Products... As I have mentioned before in other Buzz conversation blogs, the only thing I take with me on showings or when I'm with a client,... is my iPad & iPhone...as I have complete connectivity to listings, TREB, Web forms, CMA's, personal listing presentations...etc....
Can your Android or RIM do that?

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I have a Blackberry Bold, and it stinks.
Sure. It is great for email.
But, it is terrible for everything else, especially the web-experience on it.
Everyone tells me that the BlackBerry is amazing because of its encryption. What the heck does that even mean???! I have not clue. I feel that RIM made that up as some marketing ploy.
The only good thing about the Blackberry is its keyboard, and BBM. Other than that... meh.
I give Blackberry 8 more months.
Next phone is a Droid, or an iPhone.

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Tony said:

Can your Android or RIM do that?

haha funny

TONY AZZOPARDI

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for me it's about productivity...
Coming from a 25 year career in the music biz, TV & film industry, Apple has always been the most innovative and creative company out there.... allowing the user to express artistic and cutting edge creativity...that said, I feel with today's challenges, you really NEED to implement innovative and artist value with regards to listings and presentations ..
my thoughts!

TRONTSIES ONTARIO

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Roy said:
^Which Android phone do you have? I hear Samsung are doing some amazing things with their Galaxy phone...

Yeah I have the Samsung Galaxy S. I'm pretty sure it's the best android phone out there right now.
She's a beaut!!

ROY BHANDARI

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I was told that the new Galaxy phone is going to have a dual core processor... that is like putting a V8 engine in a 3 Wheeler....massive overkill but who am I to complain???

STEVE DOLSON

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I think all of these smart phone companies need to work on quality control more. Instead of coming out with the next 'big' thing, make sure you improve your original line-up first.
Like the BlackBerry Strom when it came out was terrible, but it has gotten better I hear. So just add stronger features but with tested software (and hardware) before it goes out on the market.
I like the iPod Touch because you can essentially turn your iPod Touch into a phone with Skype and free VOIP and you don't have to pay a monthly fee for it, so I definitely wouldn't spend money buying an iPhone 4, especially if that's available.
BlackBerry for phone, iPod Touch for the good stuff kids go for!

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I have a Torch. I actually recently bought 3 for my team. It came in by mail and 2 out of the 3 came in defective. And I hand to send one of the replacement phones back for the 2nd time. But other than the terrible start, I'm pretty happy with it. It's definitely an upgrade from my Bold.
I need the keyboard for my day to day communication. I can't stand auto correct and my fingers are too fat for the virtual keyboard :(
I do bring my iPad for showings to get access to treb listings and such. It's a better utility for show and tell anyway (as suppose to a phone to display all that info).

MICHAEL WINESTONE

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Blackberry is an email tool...... iPhone is like a portable computer and multimedia device. Most businesses (including real estate) require access to more then email when you are on the road......so I would say Blackberry's are going to slowly be phased out unless they come up with something wayyyyyyy better then they did with the Torch.

I love my iPhone... :-)

Michael

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Richie said:
I have a Torch. I actually recently bought 3 for my team. It came in by mail and 2 out of the 3 came in defective. And I hand to send one of the replacement phones back for the 2nd time. But other than the terrible start, I'm pretty happy with it. It's definitely an upgrade from my Bold.

Do you not find your torch significantly less responsive than your iPad? I also have a Torch and a iPad and i find the iPad really fast and easy to use whereas with torch feels clunky with a bad UI. I've always kind-off disliked apple so i find it especially disturbing that the iPhone is so trouncing Blackberry.

TRONTSIES ONTARIO

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Cliff, are you going to stay loyal to Blackberry even though you seem to realise that it is miles away from being anywhere as good as iPhone or Android?
Will you ever make the switch?

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haha I'm stuck with my Torch for the next while cause i just purchased it at full price and can't return it (maybe i could sell it on Kijiji?).
However, i'm ready to make the switch to Android and am watching the next generation androids closely.
Interestingly, i told a friend of mine in a US hedge-fund to consider shorting Research in Motion considering the junk device they just launched but he said they're going long on the company as RIM sales are rocketing upwards outside of North America. I guess game isn't over yet - Waterloo is still on the ice.

TONY AZZOPARDI

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It is over and ....it's too late for Rim, Microsoft, Dell and many other tech companies who all dropped the ball years ago...look at their stock charts as numbers don't lie...It will verify that their stock has not appreciated, in some cases, in decades...These companies are in complete denial... vs. innovative companies such as Apple, Amazon, and Google
Don't be left behind for these companies to catch up

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Tony said:
It is over and ....it's too late for Rim, Microsoft, Dell and many other tech companies who all dropped the ball years ago...look at their stock charts as numbers don't lie...It will verify that their stock has not appreciated, in some cases, in decades...These companies are in complete denial... vs. innovative companies such as Apple, Amazon, and Google
Don't be left behind for these companies to catch up

Good comments Tony, although don't know these companies stock charts well enough to concur completely - i shall send to my friend.

TONY AZZOPARDI

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Cliff...yes... verify with your friend...it's pretty accurate...
not to get off topic, but investing in the stock market has been a passion of mine for years...we all like to make $$$...so I have always believed in "trading what you know"....I have invested in all of the above tech companies and Apple by far... has appreciated greatly over the past 5 years....[700% +]
There is a reason why!

LONDON SASSE

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^ very interesting, i agree - innovation is king. RIM and Dell are PLAYED!

STEVE DOLSON

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Would you rather get a new iPad for Christmas? Or the New BlackBerry Playbook?

TONY AZZOPARDI

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Playbook?...first,...Rim needs to have the actual product available for Xmas...according to the company...it won't be available til next spring 2011...ya sure!
So your question is a little strange...That said...I already own an iPad...and will stick with Apple products for the obvious reasons...it Rocks!

JEREMY SHIFTLER

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iPad or Palybook?
Is that a serious question?

ROY BHANDARI

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iPad 2 - already hearing people complain about RAM issues with the current iPad and multitasking. Hoping for at least 4x the RAM (or 2x the iPhone 4) and away we go.

TONY AZZOPARDI

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people will always complain...it's what they do best...
right now...there is NO Playbook...so there's no comparison. and this question is impossible to answer. We have the iPad...the Gallaxy and Dell's 5" super sized version of the iPhone...K...now that's a real winner:-)
The Ipad really works for me as a Realtor...refer to previous conversations regarding the iPad

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^ Wow, Tony really knows new technology, impressive.
btw - my blackberry torch is slowly growing on me, it still sucks and i wish a purchased a droid but its getting a little better.
Question - why is there no 'Mac' equivalent in the world of PC. Why are Dell, HP, IBM etc so unimpressive?

TONY AZZOPARDI

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Because...Steve Jobs is a visionary...and he does what he LOVES!......other companies mentioned in Cliff's previous conversation, continue to copy Apple's products without innovating in any way. Contrary to public beleif...Microsoft did NOT invent windows...Apple did. Bill Gates adopted Apple's OS [shitty at best] and called it Window 95'
Apple was the first to bring the personal computer to the consumer in the 70's... that ran on the first OS Windows and NOT DOS...along with a device we call today....a mouse.
Since the early 70's, Steve Jobs had structured his company based on visionary fundamentals and has NEVER strayed from it. Pick up the latest book about Steve Jobs "The Innovation Secrets of Steve Jobs". An inspiring read that unviels what has made Apple so successful. Number ONE secret...Love what you do!!!!
Bottom line:...K a couple:-)
It's about passion...thus...why other companies continue to copy, play catch up...and hate Apple!
Two things we do in life...."for the money"....and...."what we love"....if you can have both all in one...you'll be happy and successful.

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Makes total sense! Jobs is a visionary. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg is a visionary too which helps explain the facebook valuation of $40+ billion http://goo.gl/CO2Ln
i'm gonna get that book - thanks!

TONY AZZOPARDI

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Mark Zuckerberg is brilliant beyond brilliant...it's people like him who help shape and re-define how we communicate...
another true visionary!

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haha agreed!

JEREMY SHIFTLER

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What have people heard about the Microsoft phone? I don't know anybody who has bought one!

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I don't know anyone who has one either but I have heard its pretty good which isn't surprising considering Microsoft's bread and butter is operating systems.
In regards to Microsoft failing to innovate I think there's at least one recent example of where this isn't the case - Kinnect http://www.xbox.com/en-ca/kinect .

MOO STASH

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Here is a really interesting article entitled "What's really wrong with BlackBerry (and what to do about it)"...
http://mobileopportunity.blogspot.com/2010/10/whats-really-wrong-with-blackberry-and.html
...a very interesting critique.

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Great article

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Hey,
Just wanted to update everyone on how things are going with my Blackberry Torch:
Although I complained about the phone non-stop for a couple of weeks and called it a piece of garbage, i'm now getting used to it and it may not be as bad as i initially proclaimed.
It certainly has speed and responsiveness issues but its freezing less and gets a little faster each week (needed to get warmed up). Maybe i'm just learning how to use it.

TRONTSIES ONTARIO

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Or maybe you're just too stubborn to realise that it's a piece of $%^&.
Get an Android or iPhone dude!

BRIAN ELIZABETH

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RIM is dead in my books. In a few years they will be remembered as the "Walkman"; an amazing devise that ruled for a long time, but lost out due to innovation.

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Hey, just want to give another quick update on life with my Blackberry Torch.
Couple weeks ago after reinstalling the device OS, which didn't help, i asked Rogers to send me another one suspecting that maybe i just had a lemon.
Well well, the new device is way better and way faster. Moral of the story - if you're Blackberry torch is going really really slow - ask for another one.
Another thing i've learned from this experience is that we are now so dependent on our smartphones that to have a malfunctioning device is kind of debilitating.

AMIT BHANDARI

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^^ Moral of the story: Get an iPhone! :-P

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^^ Thats funny. Apple is awesome but I don't like how restrictive (locked down) their products are. I prefer more open formats and so my next phone will be a Droid.

SECURITY FIRST

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I was holding off getting an iphone 4 for the longest time because I wanted to get an android but I finally got the iphone and I just love it. nothing bad to say about it, it does it all and in style.

DIANA KRIKUNEZ

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I have the Torch - I got it the week it came out (end of September), which was a huge step for me from my Motorola Razor.

I loved it, of course, again, it was a huge step up from the flip phone. In general, it really was meeting my everyday needs.

All of a sudden, about 2 weeks ago, my battery started draining really quickly. For example, I would charge it overynight until about 8:00 am and it would be near dead by 2 pm (and that's with extreme minimal use). I used to be able to use it all the time without really worrying about battery life, and now after a few emails, bbms and several calls,the battery is pretty much gone.

I definitely can't have such unreliability in my phone and worry about it dying on me, especially when I'm on the road.

Like Cliff, I'm also stuck with this phone for a while and I'm not planning on switching to an iPhone or Droid anytime soon, so save your breath :)

Has anyone experienced this? I was thinking of contacting RIM's customer service to rectify this issue...Any suggestions or thoughts?

LONDON SASSE

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Hi Diana,
Where'd you buy the phone? It should be under warranty so just tell whoever you purchased it from that yours is broken and you need a new one.
I think most Blackberry owners request a new working device about once a year from their cell phone company - at least i do.

DIANA KRIKUNEZ

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Mac to the rescue! Thanks :)

I purchased it from a Rogers dealer. I know that they had some extended warranty you can purchase for a monthly fee, but I didn't.

Is battery life a strong enough arguement to request a new device? Is it really that simple?

LONDON SASSE

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Hi,
So you should definitely 100% call Rogers right now and tell them your Blackberry battery is shot and you'd like another. The battery is under warranty for 1 year - you can check the warranty here http://www.blackberry.com/legal/warranty/battery.shtml

LONDON SASSE

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Tel # to Rogers Blackberry tech support... 1 866 931 3282

DIANA KRIKUNEZ

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Mac, you're awesome! Thanks!

I'll call them and let you know how it went!

GEA KOLEVA

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Love my iPhone. I have a Berry for work. I love the BBM feature, but other than that, the phone is boring to me (I'm a sucker for all of the Apple apps).

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Would like to make an announcement:
Rogers has just released an update for the Blackberry Torch and other devices running Blackberry OS 6.
Since installing the update i haven't noticed much of a difference but my phone is still getting progressively better with age - or maybe i'm just learning how to use it.
I still wouldn't purchase another blackberry, especially considering BBM may soon be available on phones running android.
A final note for my fellow "Torchers" - if your phone is going slow and/or freezing trying pressing the button to the left of the track pad and closing as many open programs as possible, it helps.

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*UPDATE: Picked up a Samsung/Google Nexus S from Rogers on Friday. Its pretty awesome. Still adjusting to the text input - trying to learn SWYPE. But, the overall user experience, speed and apps vs Blackberry is night and day (night being the blackberry).

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