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KEVIN KILLACKEY
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Are Burgers and Real Estate Related in Toronto?

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MATTHEW SLUTSKY
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According to Toronto Life, here are the top 10 burgers and neighbourhoods:

http://www.torontolife.com/daily/daily-dish/from-the-print-edition-daily-dish/2012/05/16/25-best-burgers/

1. The Harbord Room - University / The Annex
2. Marben - Freedville
3. The Stockyards - Hillcrest
4. Nota Bene - Downtown Core
5. Holy Chuck - Deer Park
6. The Burger's Priest - Woodbine
7. ByMark - Downtown Core
8. Allen's - Greektown / The Danforth
9. The County General - West Queen West
10. Golden Star - Thornhill

I do not know much about Thornhill, but the other neighbourhoods are pretty darn hot, and great areas to live!
 
 
 
MARCO DIFOTI
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Are you implying that burger joints are popping up in young and hip areas, and as such you can create a "Burger Index", whereby the best burgers are found in the most desirable "new" areas?
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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Burger Shack - Allenby/Chaplain Estates/Forest Hill
 
 
MATTHEW SLUTSKY
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So, I guess we now need to rate all these burger places, and rate the "hottness" of the area??
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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right now nothing in the GTA is overly hot....does that mean burger quality is suffering???
 
 
MATTHEW SLUTSKY
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@Cary Chapnick ...not too sure about that. A house on Arlington was asking $849k, but just got six offers and sold for $931k with a TWO day closing. Hillcrest is HOT, and, oh by the way, it is a three minute walk from The Stockyards, which has one of the best burgers around!
 
 
JOSIE STERN
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In 1989 when I started selling real estate in Hillcrest Village I couldn't pay buyers to live there. Of course I never understood it because it was clear to me that this area had all the elements that make up a great neighbourhood. In my mind it was just a question of time before the area was recognized for all the things it offers. It's proximity to downtown is exceptional, the subway is close, parks are everywhere, the schools are above average, the housing stock is interesting, the community is passionate, tight knit and strong - it just took buyers many years to realize it. The burger joints, new restaurants, new cafes, new condos are coming because Hillcrest Village is a great place to live.
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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@Matthew Slutsky That sale on Arlington was grossly underpriced based on previous sales from the Spring when the market was actually bursting at the seams. Price and Volume are down since June but i believe its just a summer thing. Dont get me wrong Hillcrest/Wychwood is a great hood but no where is really HOT right now....and by the way the stockyards used to have one of the best burgers in Toronto. I am a burger junkie and their decision to eliminate the animal burger was a total travesty. Most people also dont go there for their burgers. Their pulled pork and ribs make me excited but the burger isnt even top 5 in Toronto,,,,,HIllcrest could be a top 5 hood though....so their might not be a correlation.
 
 
MATTHEW SLUTSKY
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@Cary Chapnick ...what was "The Animal Burger"???
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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right now nothing in the GTA is overly hot....does that mean burger quality is suffering???
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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@Matthew Slutsky two smaller patties cooked/seared in ballpark mustard with american cheese, a special sauce, pickles and carmelized onions.....it was a knock off or "toast" to the secret menu burger of west coast famous burger chain IN and OUT....was a killer burger. I can't believe they replaced it with the GRID BURGER.....however that just means the pulled pork sammy is my go to food there....its absolutely incredible...just like Hillcrest/Wychwood!
 
 
KEVIN KILLACKEY
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Along with Real Estate, the burger craze is alive and well in Toronto! I love both in moderation, but I seem to over-consume both ;)
 
 
KEVIN KILLACKEY
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Here is my analysis of the Toronto burger craze/real estate relationship, in point form:

I have taken the perspective of comparing the Toronto Life Magazine (TL) ratings of burgers to my professional and undoubtedly biased opinion of the quality of a few of the burger's respective neighbourhoods.

For TL references, see:http://www.torontolife.com/daily/daily-dish/from-the-print-edition-daily-dish/2012/05/16/25-best-burgers/

Beach Neighbourhood: only has one Top 25 burger - Burger's Priest in 6th place. In many burger eaters' opinion 6th place may be an Olympic-esque judging mis-cue but alas, as a Beach resident myself, I will be very Canadian and gracefully accept the solid 6th place finish of our only birth into the Top 25. We're also very laid back in the Beach (ha!) so that helps too.

The comparison of the extremely tasty, somewhat expensive ($8+) Burger's Priest burgers to its extremely high demand, somewhat expensive Beach neighbourhood may be the most balanced burger/real estate match of the bunch. Take for example general public opinion of The Beach vs the general public opinion of The Burger's Priest: Some people say The Beach is hands down the BEST neighbourhood in the city to live in, and more people than not, once they've tried a BP burger, say "hands down the best burgers in the city". However, still others might rank the Beach neighbourhood as say, oh I don't know, 6th because they prefer the posh environs of Forest Hill or Yorkville, the party atmosphere of The Entertainment/Fashion District (Marben(2nd), Crush(19th) and Note Bene(4th) or Liberty Village (Mildred's(17th) or the higher standard of cuisine now found in Leslieville and Ronces Village. Although Leslieville has no TL rated top 25 burger yet, they may be vying for best overall restaurants/food in the city - along with the revampad Ronces which does have 1 burger at Blue Plate(14th).

Let's talk about #1. TL rated the Harbord Room's $16 burger #1, which I have not yet tried. Does laying claim to the #1 Burger also mean that the University of Toronto neighbourhood can also be rated #1? Maybe. I did go to U of T for 2 degrees and 5 years and while it cost a lot more than $16 to live in the classrooms and hallways there, I don't recall feeling like I could afford a $16 burger for lunch at the time. Papa Ceo's was the extent of the budget. But affordability is not part of my burger/neighbourhood equation so I will just say that to live near the University of Toronto would be very much like I would assume the burger to be: very comforting: lots of quality parkland(toppings), transit(nice bun), bike lanes(exceptional seasoning, but certainly not overly so), etc. And the topper: living in the neighbourhood is as expensive as a $16 hamburger!

Of course it is even more expensive to live near Bymark (home of the 7th place $35 masterpiece) but is it's neighbourhood more than double the price of The Harbord Room's? Certainly makes the Beach look very affordable ;)

I could go on, but I'd rather hear your commentary, augmentations and more likely: disagreements with all of my subjective rambling! Cheers.

 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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Hey Kevin - question for ya

would u call the original priest location as being in the beaches...i still think its got that Leslieville feeling to it. or does "THE BEACH" begin at Coxwell
 
 
KEVIN KILLACKEY
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Yes Cary, the original location Burger's Priest is technically located in The Beach with the theoretical/historical/real estate boundary (Districts E01, E02) dividing Leslieville and the Beach being Coxwell Ave. ;) 
However, you are right on in acknowledging that it is located near that no man's land Coxwell and Queen chasm which is constantly and eternally "up-and-coming" ;)
 
 
CARY CHAPNICK
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A lot of my Leslieville clients have claimed the Priest as being there's
Im just glad I have a priest now in my hood at Yonge and Yonge Blvd.
 
 
 
 
 

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